Joined by returning champion, Rufus Grantham, we're talking about using community and place-based approaches to catalysing large-scale retrofit. To this end he's set up a new consultancy Living Places and he'll tell you all about it this week.

We're not pretending it's actually easy, but if you create the opportunity the finance will follow, and setting up the opportunity is a lot harder than finding money that wants to be put to 'work'.

We cover everything we can in the time we have: net zero neighbourhoods, innovative finance in lieu of debt, social benefit opportunities, supply chains, and touch on the limited (or limiting) role of green mortgages.

We're really looking forward to seeing what happens with this one.


Notes from the episode

**SOME SELF-PROMOTING CALLS TO ACTION**
We don't actually earn anything from this, and it's quite a lot of work, so we have to promote the day jobs.